Marie Rose Safety

Brute

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Rondo K, sidestep K and 3K are also safe

But yeah man, I'm sick of dipshits trying to tell me Marie Rose is not incredibly safe. I'm not fucking retarded. I can read. I can observe. You're not going to convince me she didn't sell her tits for safety up the ass.
 

Nightpup

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So let me get this straight.
She's really safe and a relatively fast grappler-ish character? That's RIGHT up my alley. It's how I played Alpha before she got nerfed to Hell, a little further down, then back again.
 

Brute

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So let me get this straight.
She's really safe and a relatively fast grappler-ish character? That's RIGHT up my alley. It's how I played Alpha before she got nerfed to Hell, a little further down, then back again.
Her throws are too lame for her to be a grappler, imo. But with all her OHs and the such, yeah, I suppose I could see "grappler-ish"
 

Seppu

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You forgot 6K4 -4 on block and 6P+K4 -1 on block.
except they didn't, because they're not safe, at all.

:6::K: is -9 by itself, so adding a 35 frame spin onto the recovery doesn't magically make it safe. take the recovery away from the parry (35 - 25) and you're left with -19 on guard. same applies to :6::P+K::4:: at -16:, etc.
 

HoodsXx

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except they didn't, because they're not safe, at all.

:6::K: is -9 by itself, so adding a 35 frame spin onto the recovery doesn't magically make it safe. take the recovery away from the parry (35 - 25) and you're left with -19 on guard. same applies to :6::P+K::4:: at -16:, etc.


This is where ignorance comes into play people, and I then smack them. :6::K::4_: Which is going into Rondo BT Btw, not just Rondo itself where she goes back to "NEUTRAL" IS -19 on block. But doing :6::K::4: makes it -4 on block. As is the same for :6::P+K::4_: Which again puts you in Rondo BT making it -16 on block. Instead of doing :6::P+K::4: making it -1. Frame Data don't lie check it yourself, make a video w.e. PS: Learn to check your info before replying. :)
 

Seppu

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This is where ignorance comes into play people, and I then smack them. :6::K::4_: Which is going into Rondo BT Btw, not just Rondo itself where she goes back to "NEUTRAL" IS -19 on block. But doing :6::K::4: makes it -4 on block. As is the same for :6::P+K::4_: Which again puts you in Rondo BT making it -16 on block. Instead of doing :6::P+K::4: making it -1. Frame Data don't lie check it yourself, make a video w.e. PS: Learn to check your info before replying. :)
i was talking about :6::K::4: and :6::P+K::4:, not the :4_: variants where you enter bt. regardless though, both versions have the same amount of recovery frames.

if you honestly think those moves are -4 and -1, record yourself doing them and hold guard afterwards, now interrupt them with 17 and 14 frame strikes. i bet you can't guess what happens next... (spoiler: you get hit in the face because they're -19 and -16)

ps: learn to check your info before replying~
 

Carinca

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Honestly I don't know what most of the jargon means... just yet, but I appreciate y'all posting.

I think Hoods and Seppu need to have a Marie Rose deathmatch to figure out what's going on LOL.

Also, thanks for posting this, Radiance. As a n00b, this is going to be the base for all mah attackzzzz!
 

ModusPwnins

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Honestly I don't know what most of the jargon means... just yet, but I appreciate y'all posting.

I think Hoods and Seppu need to have a Marie Rose deathmatch to figure out what's going on LOL.

Also, thanks for posting this, Radiance. As a n00b, this is going to be the base for all mah attackzzzz!


CB = critical burst, looks like they got slammed onto an invisible wall when you land it. follow up is guaranteed if you land a CB
B! = bound, a move that spikes the opponent down and makes them bounce back up off the ground
OH = offensive hold, offensive grab
 

HoodsXx

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i was talkingno about :6::K::4:stopnot the :4_: variants where you enter bt. regardless though, both versions have the same amount of recovery frames.

if you honestly think those moves are -4 and -1, record yourself doing them and hold guard afterwards, now interrupt them with 17 and 14 frame strikes. i bet you can't guess what happens next... (spoiler: you get hit in the face because they're -19 and -16)

ps: learn to check your info before replying~

Why would you ever hold guard after using a parry that has safe follow ups. Its there to stop people from punishing you for throwing out 6K on block because 6K is -9 on block as is 6KK. Lol.... I'm done. 6K4 is again -4 IE you cannot throw punish the person. Try to throw punish and she can use any move from Rondo and they'll HCH'd all day. 6K4P HCH'd sweet free 3H+K all day for me. :) And if you're worried about 6K4P being blocked that's -4 too so again no throw punishment. Its a win win situation if they choose to try and throw you or block up and block the Rondo P anyways.
 
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iHajinShinobi

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Okay, from here on out, can you guys reply more maturely towards one another in this discussion and stop frontin' about whose dick is bigger? Really getting tired of skimming through whose right and whose wrong so often from theory fighter. Just post and respond towards someone like a mature adult.

We're here to discuss Marie Rose and share what we find, thank you.
 
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