Team NINJA Social Media Updates for DOA6
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Kasumi-Phase-X
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He wasn't talking about DOA6, since his earlier comment said something about "made a bunch of stupid dull unrelated girls to the series the new center of attention, completley forgoing the original cast of DOA." Which DOAXVV added a bunch of new girls rather than including the other 5 missing girls (Tina, Mila, Rachel, Christie, & Lisa).
P2p1mbs
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I read his quote as whining about those girls being absent in DOA games after DOAXVV and DOA6 did release after that.
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Your post was dumb to begin with. It came across as a personal attack, forcing him to apologise yet again. I’m sure Shimbori already felt a lot of guilt when he saw DOA6 flop. I don’t even know Shimbori but from what I’ve seen he seems like a very kindhearted person that people can walk over easily. Your twitter response is pretty wack.
I just need a few days to reflect. You can only climb the ladder so many times before you are at the end of your journey.
Thus could be the end of DOA fighting games for a long time. Possibly never again.
Thus could be the end of DOA fighting games for a long time. Possibly never again.
dg1995
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At least he is now free from the DOA fans.(Whom accused him of "censoring the game" for not making the boobs the center of attention in the early trailers of DOA 5 and 6.)
I mean, I'm not saying other fighting games don't have fan service, but at very least Namco and Capcom and SEGA never advertised their fighting games as games that have "realistic boob physics".
If something the marketing team of DOA franchise and the fans that wanted soft porn instead of a fighting game were holding Shimbori back from making a good Virtua Fighter successor.(some fans here also wanted ass physics for some reason.)
Really, Itagaki made a mistake of advertsing DOA as a softporn fighting game instead of a faster paced Virtua Fighter with counters and destructive environments.(The xtreme games were also a mistake)
I mean, I'm not saying other fighting games don't have fan service, but at very least Namco and Capcom and SEGA never advertised their fighting games as games that have "realistic boob physics".
If something the marketing team of DOA franchise and the fans that wanted soft porn instead of a fighting game were holding Shimbori back from making a good Virtua Fighter successor.(some fans here also wanted ass physics for some reason.)
Really, Itagaki made a mistake of advertsing DOA as a softporn fighting game instead of a faster paced Virtua Fighter with counters and destructive environments.(The xtreme games were also a mistake)
marussya
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https://wccftech.com/team-ninja-to-announce-multiple-new-games-in-2021/ And after recent info I wonder what kind of shit this will be
dg1995
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Well, I don't think DOA franchise is "dead". It's now just in life support according to this tweet from Shimbori.(Similar to the way it was during DOA 4 and 5)
dashingcometstarchaser
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They should have always kept it in the West.
zoo
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Well damn just now seeing all this.
Disagreements/screw ups aside, I appreciate the man’s dedication, the fact the we got DOA5 out of his time there and his will to take risks with the franchise is commendable. Always got the feeling he wanted to take DOA to new heights. Think it’s disingenuous to claim he wasn’t fit for the job at all, but shit happens that can lead to a DOA6 situation.
I honestly don’t expect much change going forward but whoever takes charge, please have a clear vision for these games and not just whatever pointless shit Twitter complains about.
Disagreements/screw ups aside, I appreciate the man’s dedication, the fact the we got DOA5 out of his time there and his will to take risks with the franchise is commendable. Always got the feeling he wanted to take DOA to new heights. Think it’s disingenuous to claim he wasn’t fit for the job at all, but shit happens that can lead to a DOA6 situation.
I honestly don’t expect much change going forward but whoever takes charge, please have a clear vision for these games and not just whatever pointless shit Twitter complains about.
dashingcometstarchaser
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I care about the DOAX Series.
I still say take it to Rockstar Games and fix it up and release it in the West as well.
There will be compromises on some items we receive (Costumes, etc.), but we would have a game and being in a completely different company there may be new costumes, but we may HAVE to pay for some season pass downloads which the other games would already have had, but Rockstar would also come up with new types of costumes as well. There may even be new characters based on older Rockstar games (GTA, Bully, etc.)
I still say take it to Rockstar Games and fix it up and release it in the West as well.
There will be compromises on some items we receive (Costumes, etc.), but we would have a game and being in a completely different company there may be new costumes, but we may HAVE to pay for some season pass downloads which the other games would already have had, but Rockstar would also come up with new types of costumes as well. There may even be new characters based on older Rockstar games (GTA, Bully, etc.)
onelasttime
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I think that being a dick to Shimbori is not the answer. Without him we, as a community, would have disappeared after DOA4.
dashingcometstarchaser
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What would have happened if no one complained about the season passes? (purchasing older costumes again)
SaihateDYNAMO
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All DOA really needs to shine is to follow the costume selection on what both DOA5 & DOAXVV had from defaults to additions for the sake of Season Passes or Paid V-Stones (from reused to new). For better backers for budget/support all they need is a fans such as Myself throwing $92 worth of those 2 payment systems to get costumes I want to get, and maybe something like this:
ARCANA HEART 3 LOVE MAX SIX STARS!!!!!! | 2D fighting game
The unique 2D fighting game action of the Arcana Heart series continues with this latest edition English port to PC.www.kickstarter.com
I.... don’t think costumes are the main thing wrong with DOA6 lol. There were deep issues in the core of the game itself as well as the way the game’s production was handled by KT. Better-looking costumes cannot and will not fix that sadly.
Nah, the only reason why you feel bad now is because you came to the sudden realization that people actually read the shit that gets posted in their twitter replies.... I mean, did you really think he wasn't going to see that? I know him actually replying to you got you SHOOK beyond belief so now you want to clear the guilt from your conscience.
They would’ve continued with milking the seasonpasses. The complaints about the seasonpasses were very reasonable. $90 for copy paste, zero effort, anime fetish costumes that were from the previous game and were almost exclusive for the female cast? I mean what a waste of money is that? The pricing for these seasonpasses is and was utterly disgusting and upsetting. Honestly looking back at it even with 5 I just want to hit myself for even buying one of these seasonpasses. I feel so ashamed of buying them.
Personally I’m not a fan of repurchasing costumes that were in the previous game. For the crossover DLC I can understand they asked money since they don’t own those licenses, but for costumes they created they wanted money? If the costumes were made with a lot of effort and each character had their own individual designs that fit the characters I wouldn’t have minded it as much rebuying them.
Girl why you even arguing with him? He thinks switching the girl’s panties are part of DOA’s core mechanics.... oh wait, the second message was a quote to someone else. Never mind haha.
Uh..the Season passes existing are Koei’s fault, not Shimbori’s.
Kasumi-Phase-X
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If were talking about whats wrong with DOA6, costumes would've been 2 aspects on what is wrong with DOA6 from Interview/Marketing Decisions to what costumes we wound up getting that didn't compare to DOA5. There are some comments from crapoZK Team Ninja's Mishandling of DOA6 combined with My concerns for costumes would a complete package on why DOA6 was the worst entry from the franchise. I don't care about DOA6, I would rather have My mind on the next DOA fighting game (assuming we ever get one) on what would make the game as profitable as DOA5 & DOAXVV and more reasons to reward KT for whatever price tag gimmicks on what they offer (like $92 Season Passes or Paid V-Stones since this is KT were talking about).
If I were to care about the deep issues in the core of DOA6, that would be the day I get involved with development of a new DOA game.
NightAntilli
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I don't think everything falls on Shimbori. After Itagaki left, not only did Team Ninja change, but the industry also did. Multiple ways were developed to basically exploit the gamers. It became a way for publishers to make additional money. And for every system like loot boxes or costumes or whatever else that was developed, it took away from other things in the games. So basically games got worse, got more expensive if you wanted to have everything, and people still bought them... There was no incentive to stop doing it, where it escalated to a point where people had no choice but to notice...
Developers basically had no choice. Their publishers wanted additional income/revenue, and not complying would mean a studio close down or not having a publisher at all. Publishers didn't know what else to do either, because increasing the price of games was always in poor taste in the eyes of gamers.
Hopefully, with the introduction of things like Gamepass, these shenanigans of exploiting players can take a back seat, and developers can focus on the actual game...
All the best for Shimbori. I have no doubt he did the best he could. Sometimes, that simply is not good enough, and it can be entirely out of someone's hands.
I still think we have not gotten to the potential that DOA has. Including PC was a step in the right direction (although messing up DOA5 on it wasn't great). Whether Shimbori is there or not, there is still an opportunity for DOA to show its potential, and I hope we get to see it.
Developers basically had no choice. Their publishers wanted additional income/revenue, and not complying would mean a studio close down or not having a publisher at all. Publishers didn't know what else to do either, because increasing the price of games was always in poor taste in the eyes of gamers.
Hopefully, with the introduction of things like Gamepass, these shenanigans of exploiting players can take a back seat, and developers can focus on the actual game...
All the best for Shimbori. I have no doubt he did the best he could. Sometimes, that simply is not good enough, and it can be entirely out of someone's hands.
I still think we have not gotten to the potential that DOA has. Including PC was a step in the right direction (although messing up DOA5 on it wasn't great). Whether Shimbori is there or not, there is still an opportunity for DOA to show its potential, and I hope we get to see it.
