How would you rate the roster at the moment?

SoftCabbage

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SE Asia
Main Character
Christie
#61
Just alright. We lost Gen Fu sadly. Diego is good deal.

I think only two characters and two martial arts added actually suck balls, unless there's an overhaul or reasonable number of added moves to the old ones.

Still, I'm happy for Pencak Silat addition. Or was. Not happy with the representation. I could ignore the blue-hair Marie Rose alone if she was more serious in fashion and style. But the combination of typical J-Pop school girlband outfit and posing, with the plasma power glove that again done with those kind of style - pretty much killed the whole deal for me.

Phase4 and Nyotengu are pretty much under bollocks scheme.
 

NewWestFan

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Premium Donor
Loganville Georgia
Main Character
Lisa
PSN ID
NewWestFan
#62
bLuE HaiREd mARie RoSE. aNiMe iS oUT oF PlACe. eLeCtRIc sUPer SpEEd mARtIAl aRTs wiTH SoMe PeNcAK sILat Is TOo mUCH. sHEs sO uNOriGinAL...

wHEre iS mY OppAI sHRinE MAiDeN nINja wITh FiRE pOWers anD tHe DoMiNatRIx dEMon HuNTer WiTh tHE badASS feME fATalE tRoPE

This whole game is tropes :p With the exception of Leon every single one of your mains is a trope.
 
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Macca Beam

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#63
People over there complained about Ramlethal and Elphelt the same way people here complained about Nico and the new girls. The new characters were too anime, didn't fit the game, were waifus, were uncreative, were in just to fill a trope, GG never had those elements before, and the original female cast were never anime. That should sound familiar.
now that's some spicy hypocrisy. some of the most vicious waifubabies there were baiken fans, too.
and i think you raise some interesting points here. it's a touchy topic but at some point somebody has to tear down this entire charade.

Why are people only now having an issue with the same face syndrome/ similar body type when it also existed in 5?

confirmation bias. kasumi and ayane are handwaved with "t-they're sisters", other samefaces are conveniently ignored, such as
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or pre-5 where everything BOTH face and body looked like kasumi

similar body type shouldn't even be a complaint here because the three have starkly different body meshes (both among themselves and in comparison to THE REST of them which is all minus three and very far from "half the roster")
and i shouldn't have to hear "DOA OR ALIVE IS ALL ABOUT THE BIGGGG TIDDIESSSSSSSS" coming from the forum that regularly mocks people for being obnoxious about the same thing.

How does blue and pink hair not fit or make a character too anime when DOA has purple, red, white, etc?

because anime is a generic word used in place of "bad". my vocabulary is rather limited so i'll just substitute all the adjectives in my sentences with with vague terms like "anime" and its positive counterpart, "mature", since they sound agreeable *dabs*

in actuality, you aren't going to use a not-stupid definition of the word anime without also shooting multiple other characters in the doa cast in the foot. i honestly don't know why people pursue this roundabout wankery when I HATE BLUE HAIR sounds more like normal human language.

Why does Nico's lightning not fit in DOA when we have ninjas with magic?

the series has been consistent in making 1) non-ninja 2) non-boss 3) non-guest characters NOT have flashy superpowers. it was like this all the way up to marie rose then it's all downhill, though i don't personally like the lightning contributing to that downhill motion it still fits since honoka and nyotengu already broke the rule

Why is the age 18 so bad/creepy now when in DOA1-4 there were multiple characters who were either 18 or younger?

ayane being 14/underaged is fine as long as it has giant tits, because the giant tits make it NOT underaged. conversely, if you create a character that doesn't fit the conventions of what an N-aged fictional person should look like you will never hear the end of it from me, scum. insert here another cheeky fbi/jail joke because in my bizarro alternate universe the law is about the appearance/physique and not about protecting the fucking underdeveloped MINDS OF REAL PEOPLE


other things i frequently hear are "ugh another X" "reeee do we need another Y!". more baseless tripe when you consider the state of the roster:
three younger
four older
FIVE THOUSAND gravure model bodied schoolgirls
definitely more than three kasumi clones

???

i don't care at all if you don't like [thing], but it's when you bring up "muuuuuuh legacy! muh anime! muh roster! muh again!" and sidestep the actual elephants in the room that everything coming out of your mouth starts having more holes than swiss cheese. stop doing that, thanks.
 
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#64
bLuE HaiREd mARie RoSE. aNiMe iS oUT oF PlACe. eLeCtRIc sUPer SpEEd mARtIAl aRTs wiTH SoMe PeNcAK sILat Is TOo mUCH. sHEs sO uNOriGinAL...

wHEre iS mY OppAI sHRinE MAiDeN nINja wITh FiRE pOWers anD tHe DoMiNatRIx dEMon HuNTer WiTh tHE badASS feME fATalE tRoPE

This whole game is tropes :p With the exception of Leon every single one of your mains is a trope.
I don’t think this forum can handle the truth!
 

NewWestFan

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Premium Donor
Loganville Georgia
Main Character
Lisa
PSN ID
NewWestFan
#68
...so we’re just not allowed to dislike nico’s design round these parts? regardless if we give reasons why?
Oh no not at all. You can dislike anything you want I just respect "Eh I just dont like her" a lot more than I respect a flimsy reasoning. I hate Honoka and there isnt really a good reason for it lmao I think it comes from my deep seated loathing for her now having a bigger bust than Tina.
 

Onryoki

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Standard Donor
#69
...so we’re just not allowed to dislike nico’s design round these parts? regardless if we give reasons why?
You can dislike NiCO but if you dislike her simply because she belongs a to a trope it’s pretty stupid. If you don’t like her because she doesn’t appeal to you makes it completely different than when you say “I dislike NiCO because she’s too anime and loli and doesn’t fit in DOA.”
 

prototypetom

Active Member
Blighty
Main Character
Lisa
PSN ID
prototypetom
#70
I could agree with some characters, but for me, the best character is Lisa. she has the deepest personality of all the cast.
Preach!

But you know how it goes - she's outside of the brand this house is built on, and that's really fine with me. As much as I love Lisa as my go-to, she's not a character you build a franchise on - she's not generic enough. Kasumi is the centre of the DOA universe because it makes the most sense, she wears the crown well.
 
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Ninoasker

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Bayman's bed
Main Character
Bayman
#72
Lisa is one of the more interesting characters and concepts, especially with the dual wrestler personality. I just wish her storylines made more sense.
Lisa being crushed and still making it alive without a single bruise may not make sense but jfc ain’t it iconic?! we love a robust boned legend
 
#75
the series has been consistent in making 1) non-ninja 2) non-boss 3) non-guest characters NOT have flashy superpowers. it was like this all the way up to marie rose then it's all downhill, though i don't personally like the lightning contributing to that downhill motion it still fits since honoka and nyotengu already broke the rule
Fuck me mate, what? There is NOTHING like that in anything DOA and that was dead the second we had Jann Lee kick a T-Rex in it's face and knock it out with a punch afterwards.
And that was in DOA4. Or how about when Zack fell off the goddamned DOA Tri-Tower in DOA4 and fell tens of stories and was still alive and intact?

Let's stop this bullshit that DOA was never this insane when we had stages, fucking STAGES of people falling off 2-3 story tall buildings and still continue to fight, get knocked downstairs so heavily they should have brain trauma at best and yet still fight and so on and so forth.

But it's the fucking 18 year old kids that made it suddenly lose that spirit!? NiCO doesn't even use fucking super powers, she uses Gadgets for fuck's sake, do people not read her damn profile!? "It's not okay when this shit happens... but when it's THIS shit, that's too far" is not an excuse...

Sorry for that rant but it's up there with that "Ramlethal and Elphelt is too anime for Guilty Gear" When not only was Guilty Gear inspired by fucking BASTARD!!! of all things(which is pure anime to it's core), but fucking DIZZY is pure Anime in every conceivable fashion as well as Bridget and Baiken and it set me off like a bad cocktail.
 

Force_of_Nature

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Standard Donor
Toronto, Ontario
Main Character
Ayane
Gamertag
HumbleTitan
PSN ID
Force_of_Nature9
#76
I'd say 8.5/10 as a launch roster; 8/10 overall compared to DOA5LR.

Pros:
- Great variety of characters without really getting stupid or absurd (*coughs*SCVI*coughs*)
- Majority of favourites are back
- Pretty good size roster: Not too small, not too big
- Reasonably good balance between female-male character ratios (One of the better ratios compared to most FG's)
- The roster omitted the right characters at launch that honestly were either half-baked gameplay-wise (Momiji, Rachel, Alpha-152), unnecessary (Ein, Leon, Bankotsubo), or just dumb gameplay-wise (GenFu, Alpha-152, and to a lesser extent Momiji & Rachel). However I am confident that Momiji, Rachel, Ein and Leon will return in the future anyway
- Diego & NiCO seem like fun additions gameplay-wise

Neutral:
- No guest characters
- Less than 30 characters

Cons:
- Not enough new characters
- Diego & NiCO seem uninspired in design (i.e. would be more interesting if Diego didn't appear so generic, and that NiCO wasn't a loli-type character)
- Doesn't appear like there's going to be a whole lot of new moves for returning characters thus far
- Nyotengu & Phase-4 being DLC is obnoxious

Overall, a very solid starting roster for DOA6 and more or less agree with those that made it or didn't. The removal of ALPHA is a huge plus in my book in itself.
 
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MegaMegaMike

Active Member
Main Character
Mila
#77
Decent roster. Since I don't care at all about the story, I don't agree with some of the picks.

Raidou is an immediate point off. Worst character in the series in my opinion.

Since there's Mila 'hate' I'll explain why I like her: She has a fun personality and a cool fight style. I don't care who is 'important to the story' since the story is trash and always was. Also, most of the characters are not super great, so Mila being 'boring' I don't think puts her below many characters, since most characters are a plank of wood.

DOA's cast is one of goofballs. Wrestlers, ninjas, robots, little girls, etc. Even if the character isn't interesting, or does nothing in the story mode, I like that most are just bizarre. Which is also why characters that are pretty normal like Hitomi and Mila are important.
 

Macca Beam

Well-Known Member
#78
Fuck me mate, what? There is NOTHING like that in anything DOA and that was dead the second we had Jann Lee kick a T-Rex in it's face and knock it out with a punch afterwards.
And that was in DOA4. Or how about when Zack fell off the goddamned DOA Tri-Tower in DOA4 and fell tens of stories and was still alive and intact?
the quote was talking about the lightning and when i said "flashy superpower" i meant literally it: particle effects and moves that look humanly impossible. leifang smashing a rock in a cutscene is bullshit but her entire moveset is not. we all know the whole cast is immortal but that's a different scope altogether.

P.S. i think we should also put a lid on frivolously calling everything a loli because nowhere in its definition does it say just "short". otherwise my 55 year old relative would be one.
 
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Onryoki

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Standard Donor
#79
Decent roster. Since I don't care at all about the story, I don't agree with some of the picks.

Raidou is an immediate point off. Worst character in the series in my opinion.

Since there's Mila 'hate' I'll explain why I like her: She has a fun personality and a cool fight style. I don't care who is 'important to the story' since the story is trash and always was. Also, most of the characters are not super great, so Mila being 'boring' I don't think puts her below many characters, since most characters are a plank of wood.

DOA's cast is one of goofballs. Wrestlers, ninjas, robots, little girls, etc. Even if the character isn't interesting, or does nothing in the story mode, I like that most are just bizarre. Which is also why characters that are pretty normal like Hitomi and Mila are important.
Mila has a personality? Since when? Mila’s personality is being a fan girl of bass. In 5 she didn’t show any personality and I’m afraid in 6 she won’t show anything either. I personally don’t see how Marie Rose belongs to the “bizarre” part of the cast simply because she’s short and slightly younger than Mila and Hitomi.
 

MegaMegaMike

Active Member
Main Character
Mila
#80
Mila has a personality? Since when? Mila’s personality is being a fan girl of bass. In 5 she didn’t show any personality and I’m afraid in 6 she won’t show anything either. I personally don’t see how Marie Rose belongs to the “bizarre” part of the cast simply because she’s short and slightly younger than Mila and Hitomi.
Mila’s personality is cheery. She wants to do her best and try hard. She fangirls a bunch over Bass. Simple stuff. Nothing amazing. She seems fun. That’s already more than a lot of characters.
Marie Rose is bizarre because a little maid girl that knows her fighting style is unusual.

Like, every character is a goofball or weird. Normal-ish characters like Mila and Hitomi are great.
 
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